Read the following poems written by two poets and
1) What is White mans burden saying? How does this poem represent what Westerners (America and Europe) thought about the world?
2) What is the Black Man's Burden saying? How does this represent what is happening to any non-European in the world?
3) By writing the White Man's Burden, is Rudyard Kipling showing racism? Do you think it was necessary/ important for Europeans to conquer other parts of the world in order to help the areas they conquered? Is America doing anything similar in Afghanistan or other parts of the world? Should we do anything similar to whats mentioned in the White Man's Burden?
4) Respond to one other persons comment
White Mans Burden
Black Man's Burden
1.) White Man's burden is talking about going into battle. It seems that Westerners hated the world.
ReplyDelete2.) Black Man's burden is saying that you should respect black people because in these times, they were the ones fighting. The non-europeans seem to be the ones defending and fighting for everyone else.
3.) I think Rudyard Kipling is showing racism in White Man's burden because he is saying that the non europeans should go into battle and fight for everyone else. I don't think Europeans need to conquer other parts of the world in order to help the areas they conquered because instead of taking resources from other parts of the world, they can and should be able to develop them in the places they have already conquered. America is not doing this in Afghanistan or any other part of the world because we are just fighting for our rights and freedom, not to conquer other lands and take things from them. We should not do anything similar to what's mentioned in White Man's burden because they only used the slaves and lower class people to fight for everyone else; here in America, anyone could be willing to fight and should be willing.
I like how Lizbeth gave a lot of detail about what these poems were saying and how they truly related to the world.
Delete1. White mans burden talks about going to war and the world at war.
ReplyDelete2. The theme of black mans burden is racial discrimination and how a black person should be respected.
3. I don't think White mans burden is about racism i believe it just is an opinion but not of racism. I don't think it really mattered that Europeans conquered those areas they could have had the same things to the lands they had already but instead they took from others hard work. American is fighting for the world to have freedom. They don't want the land they want to help the innocent and get justice from the ones who have done wrong.
I really liked your response, and i agree that America is fighting to help the people
Delete1. White mans burden communicates to us about the experience of going to war and participating in the battle.
ReplyDelete2. Black mans burden expresses the thought of racism from their point of view. It's more personal. Yes the Europeans did conquer many areas, but in the fight for American freedom, some nations were negatively impacted and yes some of them contained people of color, or 'Blacks'
3. White mans burden is more of a broad, general opinion. On the other hand, Black mans burden shows more personal feelings and gets really into how they feel.The Europeans did conquer, but I feel that some nations didn't want to be conquered. They wanted to keep their way of life, but the Europeans felt it was necessary. All to say, the Europeans might've forced their rule upon certain countries.
1) White mans burden talks about the upcoming event which was the war.
ReplyDelete2) They mainly talk about racism and how they deserve more respect.
3) No white mans burden is not about racism its more of a opinion based on the topic of racism. No it wasn't important all they did was harm others in the process to benefit themselves.
i agreeee girlll i also don't think its about racism but it does have to do with racism. :)
Delete1. White mans burden talks about going to war. Reading this poem shows that their thoughts were that they weren't prepared and lacked certain skills.
ReplyDelete2. In the "Black Mans Burden" it's basically saying how black people should be respected because they have no reason not to be. This could represent what is happening to the non Europeans because at a time like this many were fighting to not be conquered.
3. I wouldn't really say that in the poem Kipling is showing racism. I do not think it was necessary for Europeans to conquer random parts of the world, in my opinion they didn't really help anyone one out because no one asked for Europe's help they just did it for their own benefit and pleasure. I would say that America is doing something similar to what happened a long time ago because the U.S always tends to just stick themselves in whatever situation is occurring and we have fought for others recourses in the past. I do not think we should do anything similar to what is mentioned in the whit mans burden.
1) White mans burden talks about going into war, about the experience and the battle.
ReplyDelete2) Throughout the "Black mans burden" they discuss racism and how black people should be respected and treated equally.
3) I don't believe white mans burden is about racism. I don't believe it was necessary for Europeans to conquer other parts of the world, i don't believe it did anything by doing that, they only did it for there own benefit. I do believe America is partially doing the same thing, but not 100 percent, because I do believe it benefits us in some way.
1. White mans burden speaks of soldiers going into battle. Also it tells a story of the struggling experience these soldiers had.
ReplyDelete2. The Black Mans burden speaks of how the "brown" has been being mistreated and discriminated against violently. Also how all things were settled with violence. (bullets,blood,and death)
3. I think that since Europe was conquering areas/land they would need more more land to support the land they previously conquered. The white mans burden is not about racism but about the hardships of certain soldiers. I do not think we are doing anything identical in other parts of the world. Mainly because we are already in too deep to just quit. Also because it seems like were doing this for just ourselves.
1, The white mans burden is about soldiers being drafted into war, and the experiences that they had. It showed how they were mentally disturbed and scared.
ReplyDelete2. The Black Mans burden speech talks about how the black people were treated and how people "settled" there issues aggressiveness, and sometimes killed.
3. I do not think that the White Mans Burden was about racism but was talking about how they feel about going to war. I do not believe that we are doing anything in Afghanistan to benefit ourselves.
1 The white mans burden was about soldiers going to war and what they went through.
ReplyDelete2 The black mans burden was about how black people should be treated with respect and how they should also be treated equally.
3 I don't really think that The white mans burden was about racism. It wasn't really necessary for Europe to conquer other parts of the world they just did it for there own gain. I sort of think that we are doing the same thing to other parts of the world for our own benefit.
1. The White Mans Burden was about how Europeans draft young men as soldiers and how they conquered foreign countries and tell them it was for their benefit.
ReplyDelete2.The Black Mans Burden talks about how they were being mistreated by foreigners such as the Europeans
3.I don't think this poem is about racism because it's mainly about how they draft young kids before they go to war
1.White man burden is saying how it is to be gong to war and how it feels to be fighting in war.
ReplyDelete2.Black Mans burden is basically saying that black people should be respected because they were the ones fighting and doing most of the work. And also the European did conquer most of the areas.
3. I think that he white mans burden wasn’t about racism and also how they shouldn’t have conquer all the nations the Europeans. They were just thinking about themselves at all times
1) White mans burden is discussing the life of a soldier and the benefits going into war with another country offers for their country.
ReplyDelete2) Black mans burden is discussing how black people fought just as hard as whites and fought for the same honor and should be respected as a soldier as well.
3) I don't think the white mans burden was referring to racism in anyway. I think it was solely discussing the life of a soldier and the benefits of fighting to take over other areas.
I think conjuring other parts of the world makes a country stronger and gives a country new resources and trade opportunities.
1) White Man's Burden talks about how a soldier goes through fighting a war and how it impacts him.
ReplyDelete2) Black Man's Burden talks about how black people fought just as hard as the white people in White Man's Burden, but they were not recognized as much as the white people.
3) I don't think that White Man's Burden shows any signs of racism. It wasn't necessary for Europe to conquer other parts if the world, it was just to move into spread to other areas of the world. I believe we are doing the same in Afghanistan, but that it isn't for gain, but for our protection and only partially for our own gain.
-Luciano Cardoza
1. White mans burden is describing how it feels to go to war and the impact or effect that it has on you.
ReplyDelete2. Black Mans Burden is addressing that black people should get credit to for going to war not only white people should get it.
3. I don't believe white mans burden is about racism. Also I don't agree on Europe conquering all that land because it was for their own benefit and they didn't even think about what the people felt in the countries that they were conquering. I believe America is doing this of now in Afghanistan but I think its different because it would actually benefit America.
1) White mans burden is saying how it feels when you go to war and how it impacts you
ReplyDelete2) Black mans burden is saying that there are racial problems that we have in the country
3) Its wasnt important because they did it for their own benefit and it wasnt about racism and its america is doing the same thing and were doing it for our own benefit
1) What is White mans burden saying? How does this poem represent what Westerners (America and Europe) thought about the world?
ReplyDeleteWhite mans burden is saying how its a struggle to go to war and be sent away to it and how your sons are eventually going to have to be sent to war
2) What is the Black Man's Burden saying? How does this represent what is happening to any non-European in the world?
The Black Mans Burden is saying how black people are obviously not respected by anyone when they basically fight for their lives with slavery and racism.
3) By writing the White Man's Burden, is Rudyard Kipling showing racism? Do you think it was necessary/ important for Europeans to conquer other parts of the world in order to help the areas they conquered? Is America doing anything similar in Afghanistan or other parts of the world? Should we do anything similar to whats mentioned in the White Man's Burden?
I dont think it's about racism entirely i think it really is explaining the burden of being a white man and the burden of being a black man. Both races have their disadvantages and i think these poems together show that no one is better than the next even though we make it seem like it.
1. White mans burden is about soldiers going to war and their struggles
ReplyDelete2. Black mens burden is about how the African Americans should be treated with equality.
3. I don't think the white mans burden is about racism, it is just about the benefits of conquering land
1.The white mans burden is about soldiers going in war and all of the endeavors they faced while being in battle.
ReplyDelete2. The black mans burden basically revolved around the subject of racism. There are parts where equality is discussed
3. Personally, i do not agree that the white mans burden is about racism. I believe it is an opinionated piece but not pertaining to race. I also think it is unnecessary for Europe to conquer other empires in order to benefit them. I feel this way because it is one thing to share your ideas and views with another place in order to help them, however to forcefully impose lifestyles and ideas on a country and becoming in charge of them is a totally different thing. Yes, these countries may have benefitted from being conquered by Europe, however most of the time they resented European power. I feel as if Europe conquered places for their own selfish reasons like becoming more powerful, rather than help out a nation in which lagged in advancements. This is very different from what America does. If anyone were to compare the two it would be quite foolish for the main reason that when american goes to other countries it is to stop unjust treatments or to try to reform corrupt acts. When america does this it is for the well being of the other country, not to conquer them and become more powerful. I feel that is the one significant difference between the two.
1. Q: What is White mans burden saying? How does this poem represent what Westerners (America and Europe) thought about the world?
ReplyDeleteA: The white mans burden is about soldiers going to war and it shows the difficulties that the soldiers went through
2. Q: What is the Black Man's Burden saying? How does this represent what is happening to any non-European in the world?
A: The black mens burden reflects on how the African Americans were treated and proves to that all people should be treated with equality
3. Q:By writing the White Man's Burden, is Rudyard Kipling showing racism? Do you think it was necessary/ important for Europeans to conquer other parts of the world in order to help the areas they conquered? Is America doing anything similar in Afghanistan or other parts of the world? Should we do anything similar to whats mentioned in the White Man's Burden?
A: In my opinion, I do not believe that the white mans burden is about racism. I believe that the white mans burden is about the benefits of a conquering land.
i fully agree that based on the white man point of view, benefits are being made when they decide to conquer and change other areas.
Delete1 . The white mans burden was about soldiers going into war and the lifestyle
ReplyDelete2 . The black mans burden was about the treatment of African Americans
3. I don't believe The white mans burden was mainly racism. i believe Europeans were more interested in taking land then race.
I agree with Kamani: the Europeans were more interested in land more than race.
Delete1) What is White mans burden saying? How does this poem represent what Westerners (America and Europe) thought about the world?
ReplyDeleteBased on the poem , the white man’s purpose is to raise nation and contribute to its developments over time. Their obligation was to change the ways of places that were not like theirs and convert others to their ways. Westerners were known to westernize, industrialization and revolutions occurred. Based on my knowledge of imperialism and nationalism America and Europe felt they had to expand to to make things right and end all things bad.
2) What is the Black Man's Burden saying? How does this represent what is happening to any non-European in the world?
The poem expresses the impacts or imperialism. Any non European suffers death or no peace in life creating a negative view.
3) By writing the White Man's Burden, is Rudyard Kipling showing racism? Do you think it was necessary/ important for Europeans to conquer other parts of the world in order to help the areas they conquered? Is America doing anything similar in Afghanistan or other parts of the world? Should we do anything similar to what mentioned in the White Man's Burden?
I believe that racism is being shown. I believe that it was necessary to help areas however the way it was handled based on nationalism was unnecessary. I feel that America is doing something very similar due to the fact they are creating wars.
The white mans burden concerned soldiers in war, and the experiences they had.
ReplyDeleteThe black mans burden was about how colored people wanted to be treated equally,and with respect.
I don't think the white mans burden had much to do with racism. it was more about war, and taking over land
1) The white mans burden seems to be his concerns with war, most likely due to the fact of young European Drafts to war.
ReplyDelete2) The black mans burden is mainly about how colored people have worked the same amount as the whites, however they are not treated equally and demand civil respect. Rather than colonization, the black's were saying America had a bigger issue, that being racism.
#) The white mans burden is not about racism. Europeans were more determined in the conquering of land ultimately for more a more powerful and strong land and economy. However, in taking this land they had stolen from previously worked on and populated lands. Basically stealing land. Therefore, the burden explained was not about racism, more so the conquering of lands.
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DeleteThe White Mans Burden is talking about war and how hard it was on the soldiers. As for The Black Man Burden, it speaks about his colors people are being mistreated to the point of death and violence and should not be treated unequally. It was more about war and conquering, taking over land and expending creating a larger and stronger government and econ om, now in days America is taking over land or at least watching over other nations, basically the "world police"
ReplyDelete1. White mans burden talks about the world at war
ReplyDelete2. The black mans burden speaks of discrimination, and how it was settled violently against them.
3. I don't believe white mans burden was about racism, they were expressing there feelings on going to war, we are barely benefiting ourselves in Afghanistan
1, The white mans burden is about soldiers being drafted into war, and the experiences they had. It showed how they were mentally disturbed and scared they where to cope with the experiences they had.
ReplyDelete2. The Black Mans burden speech talks about how the black people were treated different and how it was more aggressive and sometimes led to killings.
3. I do not think that the White Mans Burden was about racism but was talking about how they feel about going to war.
It may be true, depending on how you read the poem you can grasp different ideas.
Delete1. The White Mans burden is about drafted soldiers and the time they experienced. It stated how the were disturbed and scared mentally and they had to cope with the time they had.
ReplyDelete2. The Black Mans burden speech says that how the black people were mistreated and how it was more dangerous and it sometimes led to killings.
3. The White Mans burden wasn't about racism it was talking about experiences in the war.
1) the white mans burden is about white men having to go into wars.
ReplyDelete2) the black mans burden is made to tell people to respect black people. And have they hate discriminated and it is against it.
3) I don't think that the white mans burden is about racism, I don't think that Europeans needed to conquer other nations. We are don't the same thing with Afghanistan and we are there just for oil so if we leave it would be a better off for American
1) The white mans burden talks about how the white men were to go to the wars and fight
ReplyDelete2) The black mans burden mainly speaks how racism and how african americans deserve respect from everybody.
3) In my opinion i dont think it talks about racism i think its talking about how their going to war and how they feel about going to war.
I agree. White Mans Burden was mainly about the soldiers going into war. Black Mans Burden was about how unfair people were being and how racism was affecting people.
Delete1. The White Man's Burden was talking about how white men going into wars.
ReplyDelete2. The Black Man's Burden was made to talk about how people show respect Black people.
3. In my opinion, I don't think the poems are about racism. It was talking about the experiences of war.
1) White mans burden is about soldiers being drafted into war, and discussing the benefits going into war with another country offers for their country.
ReplyDelete2) Black Man's Burden talks primarily about racism and the issues that come to those people.
3) I don't think the white mans burden was referring to racism in anyway. I don't agree on Europe conquering all that land because it was for their own benefit. They didn't care about how the people being taken over felt. I believe we are doing the same in Afghanistan, but that it isn't completely for gain, it is also for our protection.
1. White mans burden was about goin into war.
ReplyDelete2. Black mans burden shows racism from the black man's point of view, explaining how they show be shown more respect and be treated as equals.
3. I don't think the poem was specifically about racism, rather than experiences during war.
1) The White Mans Burden is the imperialism and nationalism of Europe and America. Westerners see it as their duty to put order to the world by spreading their influence and beliefs.
ReplyDelete2) The Black Mans Burden is to fend off the white men, to fight revolt the oppression.
3)I think it was necessary for the fact that many of the Westerners brought to these countries new innovations, from the industrialized countries. It was is a form of moving the world forward. The poem does show racism because it is expressing the fact the "White" man is the one to spread ideas and govern control over all others.